Spouse and I keep shared notes on things like the shopping list, bug-out plans, emergency procedures for if the local volcano blows (currently threatening), pre-departure checklist for van camping, and so forth. Nothing is high-security, but we don't need corporations selling their meagre contents to add to our compiled profiles. We also needed someplace to compile recipes one or the other of us found and would like to try. This doesn't need to be two different apps, but because of account and interface limitations, that seemed to be the more workable approach.
We found Standard Notes functional but, in the free account, limited. You can tag but you can't assemble into notebooks; it's only plain text. But it allows sharing, so we use that one for our recipe collection, which is amenable to tag organization. Works fine between devices (phones, laptops).
We tried Google Keep and it worked okay although Spouse had a hard time remembering to tag things and then couldn't use the tags for sorting and so had to scroll through a whole list of all of the notes and it just wasn't working for them. Also, Google is the antithesis of "private."
We tried Simple Notes. That worked fine. It had notebooks and was stable across devices. Then Mullenweg blew up Automattic in the wpEngine affair and we decided that we didn't care to patronize his services or, for that matter, trust them. Ethical is right up there with functional in our book.
Next came Notesnook. The interface was a little quirky in the navigation—I thought it was trying to do too much and thus became opaque. But it allowed rich text, which was helpful, and I used it quite a bit during the big email changeover (see previous posts). But then I noticed the contents of one particularly long, often-updated note had copied into another note, the shopping list. Okay, maybe a one-off; maybe I did something. Who knows? But then it happened again and right when spouse was out and needed that now disappeared shopping list rather than the text of that same big note that had taken it over again.
Okay, that's not going to work out. These aren't high-security notes but they're important to us which is why we want them shared on our phones.
Back to Reddit, back to compilations of private note-taking apps, back to DuckDuckGo. There are lots of apps that take relatively private notes and have notebooks & tags. There are lots of note apps that allow collaboration. But the problem was finding those features together in one app that didn't call for being self-hosted. I have a website, but it's hosted in an account belonging to a friend and I don't have control of it outside my blog. So did I want to buy web-hosting and a domain to run a little notes app? Not really.
I did an export from Notesnook and found the files weren't readable. Actually, several exports in several different formats, and none of them were usable. Great! I decided that since so many talk up Joplin, I'd try that as an intermediate archiving solution. I had an old, mostly unused Dropbox account and Joplin, rare amongst apps, syncs on Dropbox without needing a private server. So I installed it on my laptop (appimage) and copied/pasted out all of my notes from Notesnook (sigh) and pasted them into Joplin. And then made a markdown export from Joplin so I could archive the content in a usable fashion in case Joplin proved insufficiently stable. Those markdown notes opened just fine in Bluefish, my text app.
So far so good, right? Having not found anything else I liked at the free tier (and most of the paid tiers were awfully expensive for our relatively small number of notes and server traffic), I decided to try adding Joplin to my Android phone. Dropbox allows their free accounts to be installed on three devices, so my thinking was that if this worked out, Spouse could put the third one on their phone. That way, even though Joplin doesn't allow collaboration, we could both edit the notes in the single Joplin instance.
I installed both Dropbox and Joplin apps on my phone. It took some round-and-round to get Joplin authorized in Dropbox, in part because it took a long time and multiple sign-ins in Firefox to fully open the Dropbox site and get the authorization key for Joplin (you have to get it through a link from Joplin; you can't just go to the Dropbox site and initiate it). Most of that came down to repeatedly authorizing one site after another in NoScript, since it called them sequentially. And fighting with the big Privacy Badger notice that it was blocking the cross-site scripting called for in the Google login (which I of course didn't use, but it is offered). So none of that really the fault of either Dropbox or Joplin, but time and frustration and I almost gave up before I finally FINALLY got that auth key.
Gah! But then Joplin synced and looked good. Except, wtf? One of the notebooks was missing. The individual notes were there, displayed in the "all notes," but not the notebook in that listing. And yet the notebook showed clearly in my laptop version. I gritted my teeth, made a duplicate notebook, put duplicates of those notes in it (there is a duplicate note function, which worries me just a bit), and synced that. And checking both versions this morning, it's still fine. Okay, so maybe a one-time setup hiccough. Crossed fingers.
Next test: install on Spouse's phone (they don't get a laptop version due to the Dropbox limitation). And then, if that works without further uproar, we'll see how durable it is. I'm really ready to be done with this part of the project, you know?